Enola Holmes Review | Escape to the Movies

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    Millie Bobby Brown is Sherlock Holmes' adventure-seeking younger sister in a charmingly family detective-mystery from Netflix that our resident critic says deserves to be the next big Young Adult hit.
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Kyle Sherman
Kyle Sherman

Huh, no mention of all the "woke" garbage beating the viewer over the head throughout.

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Geese Howard
Geese Howard

What happened to the rest of the Bob Chipman videos? I don’t see any more on the channel

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Departed Reflections
Departed Reflections

The movie fell apart at the last end fight. I didn't get why Enola made the choice to return to the mansion. It was so stupid I checked out

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Nameless Grifter 2
Nameless Grifter 2

You know what I thought was an odd choice? Making a 16 year old girl look like she's 30 in the poster, with how heavily they doctored it.

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ForNoGoodReason
ForNoGoodReason

1:26 well if i could weigh in on her being a mary sue, despite being knowledgeable, she kinda was flying by the seat of her pants. Its hard to describe, she knew how to do things but her lack of knowing how the world worked kinda had its charm, and naturally your mileage will very.

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Planet Mars
Planet Mars

Back up, Enola Holmes is Henry Cavil's sister, but HBC's daughter? Is that to suggest they share a dad then cause Cavil is not young enough at all to be HBC's son.

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deathsyth8888
deathsyth8888

I honestly thought, at first, this was a Netflix series and not a feature length film.

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Christopher Aaron
Christopher Aaron

It's the night BEFORE her 16th birthday, not the night OF her birthday.

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Andres Iturra
Andres Iturra

The 4th wall breaks are so annoying She does tyem LITERALY EVERY 2 SECONDS Edit:You can disagree, this is just my opinion

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Will Mungas
Will Mungas

They were annoying as the movie continued but there really aren’t many after the first five minutes and I think they were spaced out well enough to be a little uncomfortable (as a fourth wall break inherently is) but not obnoxious ever.

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savagepatty
savagepatty

She is amazing as a genderfliped Sherlock. However.. Sherlock and Microff are useless and it’s all up to her to save the day because... woman?

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savagepatty
savagepatty

@Jeremy Adler perhaps you missed a lot of the marketing for the movie. Sherlock being described as useless was their words. Either way you look at it there is a clear narrative being pushed in the movie. Or perhaps it’s just luck that all the men around her seem to be incompetent, arrogant or condescending. I don’t really care if it’s bad weighting or more yes slay queen crap, either way the fact they felt the need to cast on the Sherlock Holmes franchise rather than make it an original ip speaks volumes. If you liked it than that is fine. But the facts remain the facts and I didn’t care for it.

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Jeremy Adler
Jeremy Adler

@savagepatty, I don't think Sherlock was "useless". Sure, he solved the mystery after Enola, but he's still the same Sherlock we know and love. I didn't see him pulled down or anything. As for Mycroft, he's always been more into the government side of things, so I didn't see him TOO out of character.

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savagepatty
savagepatty

@Jeremy Adler not saying she shouldn't. But if you feel the need to pull other characters down and make them appear useless or incompetent in order for yours to look good than it's either propaganda or bad wrighting. Either way.. "to be fair" it's bad.

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Jeremy Adler
Jeremy Adler

Well, to be fair, it IS her movie. SHE'S the main character, so it makes sense for her to solve the mystery first :)

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Philip Mear
Philip Mear

Entertaining, great acting, good film locations plus Enola character was very lively. However it’s potential was ruined by feminism embedded in the script. Yes, celebrate feminine achievements but not feminist ideology. Great women of the past would not embrace modern feminism because of its secular origins and political message.

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Limey Joe
Limey Joe

When Sherlock Holmes was conceived I'm pretty sure he didn't have all the skills you mentioned, he was just a great detective. It's a Hollywood thing making characters ridiculously good at everything and I would argue it not only makes them unrealistic, it makes them boring as well.

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Omer Saturn
Omer Saturn

Will watch now, thanks

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Kacper Madejek
Kacper Madejek

I've stopped watching the movie the moment Sherlock was called a 'brilliant "deductive" thinker'. Knowing even a little on methodology spoils all the fun :D

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chibiktsn3
chibiktsn3

My husband heard about this and wanted to see this (mostly because Henry Caville was Sherlock) , so we saw it one night and were instantly smitten. We thought it was a series, but were happy with the movie as it was.

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Gere George Kuruvilla
Gere George Kuruvilla

Yeah that’s a big NO from me. From the diversity check list casting of secondary actors, to the cheesy copy cat fourth wall breaking, this movie is so generic and lacking in originality, I was able to guess the lines of actors before they spoke through the film. That’s how little the creators bothered on trying something new. None of the characters seemed more than cliches and Emola as a character is quite literally Sherlock’ina. A female copy of the male but with heart. Slow clap * Much wow, very original..... not

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Nesseire
Nesseire

The diversity kinda bugged me, because if there was any diversity in Victorian London, it was from Indian population. When imperial England colonized India, some brits soldiers married into the local population. However, instead of India descendents, I saw lots of black people and even Asian, but not the historically accurate Indians. Is a small detail that bothers me a lot XD, specially in the high class private school for girls

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Ted Naifeh
Ted Naifeh

I now have another reason to like Enola Holmes, because it apparently pisses off the worst kinds of people. Seriously, yes, you guys. You are the worst. I think the whole Mary Sue accusation has become the "all lives matter" rallying cry for mysogynist fans. It's applied everywhere, but I think the core of confusion, aside from misogyny, is not knowing the difference between a wish-fulfillment character and a Mary-Sue. There are loads of wish-fulfillment characters out there, and many of them are quite good despite, or even because of, their fantastic excesses. Superman and Batman come to mind. James Bond, Ethan Hunt, Conan, even Spider-Man. The difference between a wish fulfillment character and a Mary-Sue is that wish-fulfillment characters get tested to their limits on their adventures, while Mary-Sues never do. They never struggle, never face impending defeat, everything just works out for them because they're so awesome. Examples among male protagonists include Jack Reacher, and everyone Stephen Segal ever played. Wish-fulfillment characters can have major flaws or minor ones, or barely any. I wouldn't necessarily compare Enola to Sherlock and the grab-bag of flaws he carries, but I would compare her to Ethan Hunt, who's just God's (or whatever the Scientology equivalent is) chosen boy, but still has to run his ass off in every damn movie, and face almost assured defeat. And this brings up another aspect of Enola. The most significant difference between her and Sherlock is that she's an underdog, and he never is. The movie presents this very fact as the reason behind his other flaws. In the Enola universe, Sherlock's boredom and detachment, his disinterest in people as anything but problems, as well as his drug use, replacing the harder task of emotional engagement with the world, all could be said to stem from the comfort of being privileged, an upper-class white male. In the Enola-verse, his detachment becomes his way of ignoring the clues that are all around him that he lives in a world that favors him at the expense of others. He doesn't feel motivated to do anything about it, nor does have have any idea what to do about it if he were. Presumably, a man of genius-level intelligence must take great pains to hide such truths from himself. Put simply, his fatal flaw is his privilege, which both blinds him and strips him of motivation. As for Enola, just living in a world that wants to break her at every turn is challenge enough. She doesn't actually need a grab-bag of personality flaws to overcome. Just overcoming the world is enough to make her interesting to watch. The thing about a wish-fulfillment character is that they let the audience enjoy the fantasy that the world's evils can be defeated. It's only when the fight is far too easy that they become a Mary-Sue.

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Dean Smith
Dean Smith

Terribly boring and rediculous... just like your review!

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Christie Lewis
Christie Lewis

I’m realizing that female self insert companion to Sherlock Holmes is my fave niche genre.

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Manatee Man
Manatee Man

Enola Holmes was produced well in many ways. The acting was excellent. I didn't find her a Mary Sue at all, but the critical flaw in the writing was that all of the women characters (save, critically, one) were wild, free-spirited, modern, free-thinking, complex personalities (or at least the writers clearly tried to make them as such) where all of the men are buffoonish, set-in-their-ways, backwards, and hostile to or dismissive of women at almost every turn, so much so and so often that it didn't even feel appropriate for a period piece.

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nate emp
nate emp

Why is your mic so bad?

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vazak11
vazak11

Fun!

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Robert Huether
Robert Huether

I am this movie's audience and just heard about it from you. I need to watch this thing tonight, it sounds incredible.

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righteousham
righteousham

Saw it the day it premiered, liked it a lot. A few more of these coming out over the next several years would be well received, I feel.

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NardoE25
NardoE25

This movie sucks, narration and cringe fourth wall breaks killed it for me

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madurbanbees
madurbanbees

My kids loved it.

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Desmond Desjarlais
Desmond Desjarlais

This movie was exactly what I hoped it would be. Dunno exactly how it could've worked better for me. Maybe if there were more cats. And batman.

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M K
M K

Yes, because siblings always share the same skill sets because they always share the same life choices and paths.

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Broken Memes
Broken Memes

Tbh I would be very fine with a few more movies in this franchise

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One Deep
One Deep

I thought the EXACT opposite of this narrative driven, feminists, over explained, love story of an over powered knock off of a Sherlock Holmes movie... 2/10

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Michael Sporzynski
Michael Sporzynski

(minor spoiler for one scene below, not really anything plot-crucial) . . . . . . As both a long-time martial arts practitioner *and* a fan of martial arts cinema, I really appreciated (and got a chuckle) out of the fact that Enola's actual fights are surprisingly realistic (if you correct for the genre and the need for fights to be impressive for the viewer). Turns out a gifted teenager that trained martial arts extensively will still fail when trying to pull off a complicated, fancy move against a bigger, stronger opponent. Anyone who trained martial arts has both been there, and trained with a *lot* of relative newcomers who were all "why isn't this technique working?!". I don't think I've EVER seen this portrayed in a movie convincingly. Hand-to-hand fights in movies tend to either show the hero as hyper-competent, or show them as completely inexperienced. This movie shows a compelling middle ground (Enola still kicks ass and does impressively well, she just doesn't kick *enough* ass to handily win against a guy that's clearly been in actual fights, not merely sparring with teachers).

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Hunter82
Hunter82

I thought the writing was absolute dogshit. Sam Claflin's Mycroft was a one-dimensional caricature and the writer seemed determined to make every character as unlikeable and uninspiring as possible. It's a testament to Millie Bobby Brown's prodigious acting ability that she managed to single-handedly rescue such a mediocre film. She was bloody brilliant.

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Manatee Man
Manatee Man

MBB was fantastic. The writing was *deeply* flawed. Again, all of the women were modern, free-spirited, and forward-thinking while the men were almost universally hostile, buffoonish, and dismissive, so much so that it didn't even feel right for a movie set in the past.

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Null Set
Null Set

But Holmes is increasingly portrayed as an asshole, doesn't seem like this tries to do that ?

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IncendiarySolution
IncendiarySolution

Six seasons and a movie

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IncendiarySolution
IncendiarySolution

So good

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Mitchmo Delmar
Mitchmo Delmar

💙

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jason
jason

That was a mouthfull

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David Provencher
David Provencher

My biggest problem with it was that they went out of their way to say that not only is he not in the movie, Dr. Watson doesn't even exist in this universe. I don't know why it bugs me so much, but it does.

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Dan J
Dan J

There's no way Helena Bonham Carter is old enough to be Henry Cavill's mother, right?

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Colonel Green
Colonel Green

She's 54, he's 37. Within the range of plausibility, particularly since her character would have been getting married in the 1850s.

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tornay131
tornay131

I don't like Sherlock Holmes either.

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Justin H
Justin H

Completely off topic but Sam Claflin is my pick for mcu Human Torch. He has been for quite a while.

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TheCreepypro
TheCreepypro

I've seen pretty much every version of Sherlock Holmes there is and have enjoyed most of them I see no reason to not at least give this one a shot especially since it sounds so charming

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Kyle Voltti
Kyle Voltti

I was hooked the moment that Sherlock barely suppressed a smile as Enola was getting under Mycroft’s skin in the carriage.

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eddie Towers
eddie Towers

The trailer, alone, made it seem stupid. Just the thought of extending a Sherlock Holmes family, beyond the scope of a staple character, is totally outright stupid. It was an obvious pandering to young adults, and seems a Disney channel, Nickelodeon, Lifetime, Hallmark channel kind of feel than a legitimate feel of being a Sherlock Holmes compendium. This was already done in young Sherlock Holmes, so why did we need a retconned Holmes story? I would’ve been happy with a well made NancyDrew movie than a-stupid idea of an Enola Holmes, anything. Leave well enough alone, and prematurely abort this brain child.

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eddie Towers
eddie Towers

@Inge Febryna also, Eurus would’ve been a more compelling character than Enola. All things considered.

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eddie Towers
eddie Towers

​@Inge Febryna I’m fine with Mycroft, because he was his own character, never taking on any inkling of Sherlock’s skills, and Enola never being mentioned as skilled crafty. This movie upended everything credible anything Sherlock Holmes. Way too many modern incongruities that goes against Sherlock Holmes’ entire timeline.

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Inge Febryna
Inge Febryna

I mean Enola and Mycroft Holmes existed already before this movie

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killerbee256
killerbee256

Sherlock Holmes wasn't a teenager... Oh well marry sue characters aren't exactly new even male ones.

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Mark Peters
Mark Peters

The advertising for this was definitely playing up the 'She's Sherlock Holmes but better' and seems like that's just the fault of Netflix's marketing department. Again. I'll give it a watch.

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Will Mungas
Will Mungas

It’s actually a really good movie. The feminism and politics are really not heavy handed except for one or two moments, but they are there. The character is actually pretty well developed and genuinely relatable. Doesn’t really tear down Sherlock, he’s actually a perfect version of masculinity as I see it. He isn’t “toxic” nor is he ever really shown to be wrong solely because he is a man (although in one scene a character does argue with him about women’s rights, he is empathetic but focused on his goal rather than politics and he doesn’t argue back; Mycroft is a dick though). He is stoic and intelligent, but also a genuinely caring and empathetic character, and the movie never tried to hate on him at all, while also not portraying him as weak. He actually solved the case before Enola would have, but she beats him to it because she gets involved in a close action encounter with the villain rather than actually knowing who the villain is. Without spoiling anything because it’s a good movie she comes to her own conclusion about the villain and goes to confront the villain, and in that encounter the case is made clear. The next day Sherlock announces to the police that he has solved the case and explains why; he is only late to solving it because he didn’t actually go confront the villain, not because he is stupid or anything. Solid movie. 9/10, highly enjoyable watch, although the fourth wall breaking is a little uncomfortable at times it isn’t overused and it’s not really obnoxious ever :)

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orkutfinance
orkutfinance

A Sherlock Holmes movie that felt very, Elementary?

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sharazisspecial
sharazisspecial

This movie was good. Although Henry did well, he is not Sherlock.

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TheMrVengeance
TheMrVengeance

If there's one "major" critique I could give this movie. it's that it felt like the first episode of a series. There is so much that's introduced but never explored. But I guess leaving you wanting more isn't really a bad thing. Just made the ending a little less satisfying. The only other things that I didn't like were simply because I'm not the target audience, at times it's heavily kid/tween movie, but that's what it is.. so.. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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TheMrVengeance
TheMrVengeance

@Inge Febryna - I know right! When the credits rolled my hand automatically moved to click "Next Episode" and it confused me for a second when it wasn't on the screen. But there's definitely going to be sequels, so at least we'll get a series of movies I suppose!

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Inge Febryna
Inge Febryna

If it was a series it would’ve been great

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Laurence Quint
Laurence Quint

The reason why this works as a "hypercompetent Mary Sue character who can do anything" is not simply because she's Sherlock's sister and Sherlock can do anything (though at least Conan Doyle gave Sherlock some serious shortcomings via his drug use, social isolation and poor social skills to counterbalance his extraordinary abilities), but because the script actually spends time (heck, maybe TOO much time) explaining how and why she acquired those skills. It's when you get characters who can literally do everything all the time including skills they have no earthly business of knowing how to do then you get into that dreaded Mary Sue territory.

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Veronika Alcoba
Veronika Alcoba

The women empowering movie Mulan aspired to be but flopped. 10/10 would watch again!

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Architect Ironturtle
Architect Ironturtle

Elona Holmes was actually a book series I read the first few entries in when I was younger. Don't remember it well enough to know if this is an adaptation or not, but they were pretty good. The main thematic hook for the mysteries in those was that Sherlock almost never touched on the womanly side of British culture, so Elona solved her cases by using things like reading flower messages to find leads that a man of the time wouldn't have even considered, much less looked into, allowing her to solve the case.

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Altoid Bazingá
Altoid Bazingá

Oh wow it's a whole series

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Duct Tape Devil
Duct Tape Devil

Its smart? Dude are you getting paid to say that or are you still working on a G.E.D.?

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Matthew Lee
Matthew Lee

I just finished this film today and I'll give it some credit: while leaning towards female empowerment it didn't feel a need to bash men nor did it take away from Sherlock's character as the summary on Netflix would have me believe. The romance wasn't really there nor was it forced in awkwardly and Enola wasn't made excessively powerful for no reason which really came out in the fight scenes where she wasn't shown overpowering men ten times her size without effort. I also liked scenes where she was clearly vulnerable and defeated, and props to letting her cry without it feeling forced. That said, I felt like most of the side characters were left kind of stereotypical and archetypal, especially Sherlock's brother (I can't remember his name) and Sherlock's traditional rival (can't remember his name either but I'm really tired). If there is a sequel I hope they flesh them out a little bit more because they didn't quite escape the 2D mold they were written into. But then again I liked the character of the headmaster of the girl's school because they could have easily written her as comically evil for a laugh but she was written and acted in a way that suggested that she genuinely believed what she was doing had value and meaning more than "because of greed and power". Another problem I had was the constant breaking of the fourth wall. I don't know what they were going for there other than giving her personality and quirkiness, but sometimes it felt like a way to get things across that the writers didn't seem to know how to get across otherwise. Also I feel like it interrupted a few scenes (mostly where she's deciphering stuff) that didn't need to be there. I will say I'm glad they toned it down the further the movie went but I think they could have easily made the movie without it. The plotline of the mother was never resolved and I feel like the actress (man I'm bad with names today, Carter is it?) was wasted since she wasn't given much to do. Whatever happened to the terrorist conspiracy anyway? Did they just give up when their bombs were destroyed? Did Enola even tell them what she'd found out after she'd been caught? I don't think she did because she asks later if Sherlock had found it. WTF was she just going to let them continue to operate afterwards? The plot felt a little bit too quirky and silly for my taste but I know that's the genre so whatever. The twist with the grandmother sort of came out of left field for me. I get that they set her up during the walk in the woods and I like that they didn't go for the most obvious villain but I feel like it could have had a little more setup. Maybe if we had more with the boy and his father it would have made sense? Production wise I don't know if it was just a lower budget, or maybe they blew their budget on big name actors that they underutilized, but the world feels a little too small. London is a big sprawling city with many different districts during their era but you don't quite get a scope of how truly large it is. A mark of good cinematography and set design is quickly being able to figure out where everything is in relation to everything else and why. A lot of the streets and districts in London felt like random points in a map like places the characters just happened upon. Some places were different enough that they stood out but most of the daytime locations in London look like they're right next to each other if not the same place. Overall the performances were good, actors were underutilized though, the 4th wall breaking with unnecessary, the plot was a little cheesy and silly at times, some plot lines went nowhere, the character arc of the main lead was good, the characterisation was good, there isn't a good sense of "place" in the film since a lot of the locations feel interchangeable and serve just as places for the characters to go, but I could tell the filmmakers genuinely cares about the product they were making and put some heart into it. I'd give it a 7/10.

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Sean MacKay
Sean MacKay

Sherlock's traditional rival is Moriarty, who wasn't in this movie. I think you mean Detective Lestrade, who isn't so much a rival as the detective who is initially skeptically then eventually comes to rely on sherlock for help with cases.

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Reap The Whirlwind
Reap The Whirlwind

I like this also as an examination of Sherlock Holmes himself. There's no Watson to act as a sounding board and hype man and it was sort of weird seeing Sherlock out of his element. He's a stranger to Enola and a foil and embarassment to Mycroft. More importantly, he's late to the mystery and was blinded to some of the most important elements of the case because not only was he too close to it but he also didn't take his mother or sister to be serious, rational thinkers. By the end he seems to realize that Enola wasn't just performing a cool trick and that his mom was a more complex individual than he'd understood. I really enjoyed this too and hope there's another movie or a series in the pipeline. Millie Bobbie Brown is an excellent up and coming actress and she's been great for Netflix. I hope they realize that and do what they have to to keep her around.

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Dante Christensen
Dante Christensen

For some reason I always assumed this was being delivered as a series and not a complete movie. Regardless Millie Bobbie Brown has been proving more than capable as an acting talent for a while now and I'm happy to see she's still getting a chance to strut her stuff. I guarantee that if you find a reason to put her and Sophia Lillis together in an adventure movie my younger relatives will be all but breaking down my door for me to set up a movie night for them.

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Eleanor Anderson
Eleanor Anderson

I just watched this movie and I LOVE IT SO MUCH

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Zenn Exile
Zenn Exile

+1 for that fkin Contra shirt though.

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Kirk Just
Kirk Just

I wasn't expecting much but I didn't mind it. Definitely setup to be serialized.

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Joshua of Grand Rapids
Joshua of Grand Rapids

I know my comments are usually critical, so I’ll take this opportunity to say you wear leather well

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Juan-Millionth Customer
Juan-Millionth Customer

This movie sucked and it was super annoying having the 4th wall broken every 10mins.

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Weston dubYA
Weston dubYA

I agree. It was a paint by numbers quirky tween mystery adventure minus the intrigue. The cast do their best with the material given, but the writing fell short even for a YA flick. Not an offensively bad film, but not a particularly good one either. I doubt I'll feel inclined to watch it again.

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Muhammad Farah
Muhammad Farah

I was looking for a comment like this.thank you for saying that

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Chris Howerton
Chris Howerton

Insert "get woke go broke" meme. In all seriousness,I have a feeling you will have more haters after this.

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Chris Howerton
Chris Howerton

@Sean MacKay O....K.

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Sean MacKay
Sean MacKay

Hate to tell you this, but Bob's been pretty woke the whole time. It hasn't been hurting him so far.

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Chris Howerton
Chris Howerton

@TheMrVengeance OK!

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TheMrVengeance
TheMrVengeance

Stop posting cringe.

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Erin Lindsey
Erin Lindsey

As the old saw goes, "what do you call a male 'Mary sue?' The protagonist."

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Simon Grey
Simon Grey

_...that literally is just Sherlock Holmes._ Except that its not, but nice try. Sherlock Holmes was brilliant in some aspects of life and completely inept in others. So she is a typical Mary Sue character. While she does occasionally makes mistakes, she makes then due to lack of experience, not specializations that Sherlock is. If experience levels of both characters were to be level out, something that inevitable comes with age, she will be good with everything, while Sherlock will remain to be highly specialized individual, that does not even know that Earth is round, because this information is of no use/interest to him. Also Cavil was a complete miss as Sherlock. Sure, he is an excellent actor and somebody that women tend to fawn over, but in terms of Sherlock Holmes characterization... pretty much zero.

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Simon Grey
Simon Grey

@David V _Mary sue is just a sexist term._ You are an imbecile. There is male version of this trope called Gary Sue(or Marty Stu, or Larry Stu). It is generally genderless trope, but nowadays it is mostly associated with women, due to utterly incompetent, boring and cringe writing coming out of feminist circles. With women being portrayed, in best feminist traditions, as super-capable in every aspect of life, with anything she comes in contact with. Without any need for training or learning. _Nobody said that she wasn't inept in other, even she was presented as akward in many ways that Sherlock is._ Like what ? Being awkward has nothing to do with being capable. _And let's not pretend that Sherlock is just the Sherlock of the old books. He is also the one from the bbc series, and the one from the movies portrayed by Robert Downey jr._ No, no, no, no, no. There is only one true Sherlock Holmes, everything else is interpretation, like my favorite Gregory House. Shows like Elementary or Sherlock merely represent the spirit of original character, with some variations. Including RDJr movies. There is a standard and everything is measured by it. _I don't remember people calling cumberbatch or Robert downey jr (both of them way more exaggerated thst the Holmes in thes movie), Mary sues._ Because they did not fit the trope.

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joseph davisson
joseph davisson

I like how the got a buff dumb guy for Holmes. It’s like casting Peter Dinklage in of mice and men.

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joseph davisson
joseph davisson

Popo Bawa and Henry Cavill would make a great Lenny.

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Popo Bawa
Popo Bawa

Actually, Dinklage could do an amazing Sherlock Holmes! His effortlessly brilliant yet insufferably prickish scientist character from Threshold had a not dissimilar vibe.

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joseph davisson
joseph davisson

The jacket is too cool for YouTube.

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The6thMessenger
The6thMessenger

"Just gender flipped aged down into his younger sister." Except that is quite usually fan works are. Sherlock Holmes being quite OP does not excuse Enola from being OP, and if anything that's just lazy of them.

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Simon Grey
Simon Grey

@David V You clearly havent seen those movies and confuse RDJr with his character of Iron Man from MCU. They are quite far from being super. As far as teen Sherlock goes, i presume that you refer to 1985 movie, where Sherlock was portrayed as a typical, while extremely intelligent, nerd. Who was bullied, made fun of and had all the typical teenager problems and insecurities.

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Simon Grey
Simon Grey

@Popo Bawa Any of them. Feminism in general promotes idea of female empowerment. In reality it manifests thru parasitism, where women take out a lot more than they contribute, by utilizing government as a funnel between male taxes and female services, in and then call it "independence" In fiction it manifests in form of characters like Rey from Star Wars. Knows everything and can do anything, being exceptional in every aspect.

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Popo Bawa
Popo Bawa

@Simon Grey - She is? What school of feminist thought does she represent?

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Simon Grey
Simon Grey

@The6thMessenger Im not defending her, i think she is typical feminist character.

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The6thMessenger
The6thMessenger

@Simon GreyBut that would just make Enola worse by being OP just becauze. They could make Enola the least capable of the family, understandable, and goes by "what would Sherlock" do, and her character development would be that she can solve things on her own, without needing to become another Sherlock.

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Casi R.
Casi R.

i have to say, even as i really felt the "this is intended for a tween audience", i actually had a lot of fun. it doesnt hurt that i constantly felt like this movie would be elementary-school-me's favorite movie if it had come out ten years earlier. millie bobby brown actually amazed me, as someone who didnt care for stranger things and isnt really surprised anymore by the capacity of child actors to cry and look tortured... but whos also really giddy to see child actors seem like they have fun and have clear enthusiasm and enjoyment in the roles they perform. that little moment in which enola winked and smiled at the camera while pretending to be drowned and dead? i clapped and laughed. she really is one hell of a charismatic lead. also grey gardens as a superhero origin story?????

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Kolyan Velius
Kolyan Velius

That's weird. I didn't expect Eleven to show up in the middle of Victorian England.

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Arthur
Arthur

Also her name is alone spelled backwards

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Akron162
Akron162

I personally didnt like how her mother was portrayed as something of a misunderstood hero, when throughout the course of the movie she is shown to be: 1-A massive liar. 2-A thief and a con artist. 3-A horribly neglectful parent. 4-Possibly a terrorist. 5-Incredibly selfish and self-righteous. But i would guess all those things are quite heroic under feminist theory.

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Clark Ambass
Clark Ambass

They made Sherlock Holmes less smarter in this movie lol

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Allen Ferreira
Allen Ferreira

I'm cool with it, but I would have liked to see the ministry of peculiar occurrences As a film.

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Lavinia Whateley
Lavinia Whateley

Frances de la Tour? That's some casting class, right there.

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Alasdair Allan
Alasdair Allan

Yeah but its also spoiler casting :/

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cklambo
cklambo

A Harry potter sequel movie with the trio at the right age now to work. Warner Bros are not that desperate yet.

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Stephen Ward
Stephen Ward

I watched it tonight and aside from the title, where it clearly should be "Holmes Alone" ;), it was a joy to watch. I've not watched much Stranger Things so I've only seen Millie when acting mute before and her performance as Enola is captivating. If the franchise doesn't catch on she would make the top of my "next Dr. Who" list.

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IMVADER2
IMVADER2

I had JUST heard about this movie the day it came out, and I gotta say, it's nice to see Millie able to do this type of personality *SUPER* well. All love to her portrayal of El in Stranger Things, but it's nice to see her do this well with a completely different type of character. Practically a 180...also seeing Geralt just kick it back under a tree in a suit was pretty great. Always been a big fan of Holmes, from the BBC show to the multiple games to even reading a couple of his books off-curriculum in middle school, so this was a fun change of pace!

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Kirk Eby
Kirk Eby

Movie wasn't bad.

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Jim
Jim

The theme music reminds me of uniracers

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wedsa95
wedsa95

We are her Watson. She explains/express things to us instead of tho a secondary character.

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Sean
Sean

Ooh, nice theory

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Uncle Ravioli
Uncle Ravioli

Oh my god you're right

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Mixolosopher
Mixolosopher

An enjoyable film with only two quibbles; firstly there are at least two setups (in the barber shop and in the flower market) to potential 'tails' that end up being nothing - either through bad editing choices or a long game that will be mindblowingly paid off in subsequent films. Secondly. Cavill is getting a lot of 'love' (read: eyelash fluttering) for his minor role as Sherlock - but he just seems horrifically miscast as he struts about looking as out of place as a wrestler at a Victoriana convention. I can see the appeal of casting him - it just doesn't work. At all.

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Manatee Man
Manatee Man

Cavill felt about as believable a Sherlock as my dog. The only thing I could see him doing well is Sherlock's occasional feats of strength (e.g. the Speckled Band) and fisticuffs, which never showed up. Most of the time he seemed stiff and awkward, and spent far too much time navelgazing for a Sherlock.

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pant0sand0hat
pant0sand0hat

Thanks Bob

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Chad Tindale
Chad Tindale

A Mary Sue character isn't defined by her/his abilities, but by their (1) faults or lack of them, and (2) how other characters feel about them. But I think more than that, we should stop looking at the Mary Sue trope as proof of a lack of quality. Let's look at Rei from Star Wars. Faultless in the first movie, but you can't look at JUST the first movie. While the first movie has her faultless and praised by literally everyone she meets that isn't a villain; the second one shows her to be naive and Luke himself dislikes her optimism. So yeah, not a Mary Sue. Sherlock, for his part may have every ability under the sun, but it never comes without drug use and the extreme disfavor of everyone he encounters. If you've never seen it, the channel Overly Sarcastic Productions does a brilliant analysis of the Mary Sue trope and why it's both derided and sometime accepted. We can like Captain America as a Mary Sue because he's surrounded by flawed characters who must juxtapose themselves against the most pure hero to ever exist (See Superman for similar effect) But we can hate Bella from twilight because she just doesn't do anything to earn the heaps of adoration that everyone in the books gives her. Stop ragging on Mary sues for being Mary Sues, if a thing is bad, it's bad because of the quality and originality, not because it checked a box on a list somewhere of things to be disliked.

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Chad Tindale
Chad Tindale

@Monkeyking i don't consider losing a fault. And the movie didn't see it as a fault either. The big problem comes with how every character views her as faultless. Han solo, who was our skeptic in the original trilogy didn't like anyone. He made fun of Luke and Obi and Leia... But for some reason Ray is praised for having the same qualities. Again though, the second movie fixes this by having Luke dislike her for being like him.

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Chad Tindale
Chad Tindale

I certainly think that's not true. There are valid criticisms of the Mary Sue trope. And not just as it applies to female characters. Male characters can be the same way. See any video game starring a rapper. For joshua, Captain being a Mary Sue was my example of it done well. In your example where Captain has a flaw, the narrative in which that lies definitely sides with Captain America. To the point where the heroes who disagree are treated like villains in the film. Tony may not like Captain's stance, but the filmmakers sure do. It may be a flaw to a person in real life, but in the movie, he's right for feeling the way he does. Even to the point of him being right about his friend, the murderer. But again, Captain America being a Mary Sue doesn't negate that his movies are also pretty awesome. Despereaux is a Mary Sue. And there's nothing wrong with that. It's a valid (though dicy) way to write a story. And yes, Superman is also a Mary Sue. But that's okay. The Plot isn't about his character development. It's most often about him punching a solution into existence. I really hate the dichotomy of some people yelling "Mary Sues are always bad" and others yelling "Mary Sues don't exist". It really prevents us from having a discussion on the topic that might improve our views.

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Joshua Levenberg
Joshua Levenberg

You're really off the mark when you call Cap a Mary Sue. In the movies, while he's a very likeable character, he does have his faults. For example, he's such a black and white figure that he doesn't understand the complexities of superhero registration and immediately jumps to "It's anti-liberty". He also keeping secrets from friends which is why his relationship with Iron Man imploded in Civil War. In short, calling Captain America a Mary Sue is the same as calling Superman a Mary Sue, you just have no understanding of those characters.

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MariaVosa
MariaVosa

Huh. I had this pegged as insufferable/only for tweens going by the trailer. But this is one of several really positive reviews rom critics I didn't think would like it. So I guess worth a shot.

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Manatee Man
Manatee Man

Honestly, I think the tweens thing is kinda accurate. For quite a few reasons.

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Jade 0955
Jade 0955

it does have a strong only for tweens vibe throughout which is slightly irritating. Some cliche, predictable stuff happens and the 4th wall breaks are either enjoyed or hated. I wouldn't put it too high on your must watch list judging by what you've said

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Arthur Velwest
Arthur Velwest

I thought a lot about this while watching the movie, and I think she is clearly not a marry sue, for all the reasons stated here, but also the fact that she fails, like a lot. She's competent sure, but she fails more then once.

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Michael Wells
Michael Wells

Frances de la Tour? Oh yeah, Frances de la Tour! Cool. Now I want to watch reruns of Rising Damp.

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Geoffrey Winn
Geoffrey Winn

Cool video!

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Colonel Green
Colonel Green

I liked the movie, on the whole. Millie Bobby Brown is a tremendously charismatic actress and with a very fun personality, as evident from her interviews, social media, etc.; but her most famous role isn't generally a vehicle for her to show that off, since Eleven is a very serious character. So this was a good vehicle for her to do that a bit more.

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Jon Ericson
Jon Ericson

Got to meet her for about 2 minutes at NYCC 2016 after Stranger Things exploded onto Netflix. I joked that since we figured ST was a one off or that Eleven died at the end my sister started crying. Which she did.

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RagnarokNCC
RagnarokNCC

The (murderer’s row) cast acquits itself incredibly, even if this was a little uneven. Really, honestly, a much better movie than it was made out to be. Worth your time, and I’d like to see a better-built sequel.

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Claymann71
Claymann71

My favorite female characters are: Dragon Queen of the Dark Gods Pantheon Takhisis from the book series Dragonlance, Victoria Barkley (Barbara Stanwyck) & and her daughter Audra (Linda Evans) from The Big Valley, & from Anime Revy 'Two Hands' Revecca Lee from Black Lagoon. There's nothing 'wrong' with characters so 'real' they could have been main characters themselves. If this is Sherlock but Different it will do fine as being built on a strong foundation. May even have more people reading the Classic Holmes shorts & stories! Now make Johnny Bravo but as a girl. (I realize they did it for one episode. I mean for an entire 12 Episode series. CLAWS comes pretty close, if you want something similar but more Breaking Bad for Moms, btw)

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Slumrik
Slumrik

690 likes, 69 dislikes. Nice.

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TexTheBest
TexTheBest

Im just leaving a comment to say, the moment you said "Mary Sue" I stopped watching this review

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Popo Bawa
Popo Bawa

That's OK sir, being Pavlov's salivating dog is payment enough!

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mandarinduck
mandarinduck

You forget that any skillfullness that could be a signifier of a Mary Sue is apparently forgiven if they're related to a beloved enough character.

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TheWolverine1987
TheWolverine1987

Sherlock Holmes is my all-time favorite fictional character and I'm not so strick with the canon as not to be open to some more out there interpretations, but a story about his secret super smart sister doesn't interest me personally and Cavill seems like a major miscast, but I do hope that this movie is good and finds its audience.

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TheMrVengeance
TheMrVengeance

I've just seen it earlier today, Cavill is definitely _NOT_ a miscast. He was great!

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GentlemanDemon
GentlemanDemon

fair point, but having a secret super smart sister isn't much more of a stretch than him having a brother that is (in many accounts) smarter than him

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Szymon Grabarczyk
Szymon Grabarczyk

Whats next? Jane Bond, The long lost sister of 007?

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Szymon Grabarczyk
Szymon Grabarczyk

@David V Cause forcing diversity into classiscs rather than creating a new story with a new character seems forced to please a certain social group. Also it seems like a cheap jump on an already popular brand. Sex is but just one criteria. To please every social group there should be also a black bond, an indian bond, a gay bond and many other bonds. Other way arround, like having a character named Larry Croft or Larry poppins would also feel wierd and forced.

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cobrakingofeart
cobrakingofeart

i have an idea for all the gender bending/ blackwashing/ diversity they want to work within canon, but i won't share it yet. the world isn't mature enough for it. maybe someday we'll go back to not caring about "diversity" (either counting it as a victory or a tragedy) and then it'll be time for it.

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Snake452006
Snake452006

Wow, really going for the Razorfist look aren't ya? Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery I suppose. Also, you suck compared to him. And this movie was dogshit.

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Joshua du Toit
Joshua du Toit

Oke, this movie is really boring, it has a good setup what gets you invested, for the first hour. After that it just becomes a Downton abbey spin off. With a lot boring conversations about nothing. Whilest the mom is planning a terrorist attack. But the story just follows sis and stupid boi like would it too much to ask there be a girl would've made sense disappointing... just aaaaahaaahh waste of time

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Wokis
Wokis

I don't count "power level" as the sole problem of a "Mary Sue", it's more when it's not backed up by a charismatic or otherwise interesting character. Hence why Tony Stark worked while Captain Marvel has.. uhm yet to prove herself. And Rey was interesting for first half of force awakens, became awkwardly cardboard during the second half but it got sorted out by some interesting development in the sequel. I haven't seen this movie yet but based on the trailer it certainly gave me the impression that she has plenty personality.

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Drakon590
Drakon590

@rJUSTINr1995 Everything i don't like is sexist The modern far-left idiots guide at demonizing his opposition

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KillahMate
KillahMate

@Popo Bawa Characters don't _need_ to be likable - but we almost always need to empathize with them, and making them likable is a good way to accomplish that.

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Wokis
Wokis

@jak1165 I mean in the sense that I'm not writing an essay as a youtube-comment yes. Like how your comment is super short because why bother. Summarizing with the word "interesting" is an easy path. But I never intended my inclusion of Rey, not being a Mary Sue as far as I'm concerned, as an example of typically charismatic. Rian's movie instead showed us new good sides contrasting with a dark side and things got interesting. (again not writing an essay)

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Popo Bawa
Popo Bawa

@Wokis - I guess more people look to movies for escapism from situations, I look to movies for escapism from people. Because there are billions of real people in everyday life, so I don't need them in my movies also. I go to movies for what I can't see in everyday life.

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jak1165
jak1165

@Wokis that's a cop out lol

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suijin25
suijin25

Bob's Jacket: If I use it on screen, it's a tax write-off.

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Charles Mcpherson
Charles Mcpherson

The drip.

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Big Fudge
Big Fudge

Bob has the most annoying, awkward edits of any content creator I've watched. Dude, I'm not going to turn off your video if I hear you take a breath - just let the camera keep rolling already FFS.

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Christopher Rose
Christopher Rose

@Big Fudge heh, thanks for the subscribe. That wasn't meant to be a plug! Let me know what you think though :)

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Popo Bawa
Popo Bawa

@Penny Lane - Bob's one weird trick to hide scandalous DC offsets! See why audio engineers hate him!

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Big Fudge
Big Fudge

@Christopher Rose I subscribed to your channel. :-)

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Christopher Rose
Christopher Rose

Its really not that difficult. I'm an UTTER amateur (as you'll see from the videos on my channel) all you do when you can't do a full take of something fairly long is stick some footage or an image up over the edit. The jerky cuts are the most annoying thing I see on youtube.

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Penny Lane
Penny Lane

I agree. Also it's a super sloppy edit usually with audible pops at a lot of the cuts because apparently someone doesn't cut at zero crossings.

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